Flow Battery Research Collective

@gus Awesome, feel free to post screenshots of your testing! You can also post some of your result files here if you need any help plotting the results.

I ordered most parts now. Fingers crossed they are correct. I went for the Ti foil instead of the graphoil since it was way cheaper. Fingers crossed

@kirk if that #battery lasts longer than 30 years that would be really really good return on investment

@quinnale this look great!! @quinnale said in Towards a working system: In addition, by printing the gasket template for a guide, and then cutting the holes and cavity with some cheap circular punches and an x-acto knife, I got some jenky gaskets. I've done similar, it's definitely possible as you've shown! @quinnale said in Towards a working system: Also, should I have made this a blog post? Happy to delete and move if that's better. Oh no worries there, I made that category in part as a container for Daniel's blog - WordPress and our forum software can interact (via ActivityPub), so that we can reference and comment on his (and other people's) longform WordPress posts directly here in the forum, like what's happening here. @quinnale said in Towards a working system: Also, here's an update on the 3D-printed pump! Been running it for about an hour, no issues. Unlisted Youtube video . If anyone is curious I can provide more details. Gonna try run it to death, see if the plastic or the tubing fails first. That's awesome! Having another pump option besides only Kamoer would be great (esp. an open-source one!). It's this pump you've used? @sepi said in Towards a working system: eing a complete newb, I slowly gather an understanding of the individual components of the cell. Glad to hear it, that's one of the whole points of this forum!

Ah, in the FAQ ... Yes, was thinking wrong from other and not so good sources.

@sepi Unless you are very experienced soldering small components I would suggest not doing this. Some of the expensive components are tiny and easy to damage, either by overheating or by soldering multiple legs together and causing shorts. I tried soldering my own mystat 3 times (without success) before I got my first working one from pcbway. I am however, not good at all at soldering.

My latest quote is 315$ with assembly included by PCBWay. That's expensive but not prohibitive. Thanks for the input!

I'm no expert ether. We used quick setting plaster a lot in construction for repairs on a lot of things and now they have a "wood epoxy" which is an epoxy for wood repairs. You have a thing epoxy you brush on onto wood which provides a good bonding surface for dry rotted wood and then you mix an epoxy that works more like the quick setting plaster and creates a strong enough repair that you can nail it. These plasters and epoxies could be formed or poured to create a nice mold. For the quickset we could build up an area, then carve and shape it before it fully set. The surface is very smooth and with a spray sealer of some kind should be even better for molds. A quick look into casting, it looks like the most common is using silicon for making the mold. Yes it lets you do detail, but it is also soft and flexible. Not good for making thin plates without warpage.

Here is an updated version! https://spectra.video/w/nJ8XNYu1MXNPSDLKV3KVTh

Updates from @danielfp@chemisting.com during today's meeting: I started a test with 2M KI, 1M ZnCl2, 2M NH4Cl, 5% Trieg with Daramic and felt on both sides. Going to charge to 1.6V at 10mA/cm2, see if it makes any difference regarding stability with Trieg on subsequent cycles. I did one cycle at 10mA/cm2, charged to around 240mAh (noticed a dip indicating start of solid I2 buildup, so cut it there), discharged 180mAh. I am now charging to 150mAh at 30mA/cm2, normally I would see drops in capacity with cycling with Trieg at this level, we'll see if they happen. [image: 1747325869007-57810618-3e33-4f12-ad81-bc93fc620bcd-image.png] Seems to be stable now at 30mA/cm2. I will leave it cycling here longer, see if it starts decaying. [image: 1747325889390-778d48dc-3d94-4012-9de2-a0c45a4727b0-image.png] ok, went for 9 cycles with no issues at all. I am now going to cycle it to 1.65V, to the Nernst limit, see if it continues working equally well. Charging to 1.65V showed the weird start for the discharge curve, although with no apparent deterioration of the cycle characteristics after the first cycle. No evidence for solid iodine formation was present, so the solution is very well behaved. [image: 1747325914186-cc5413ce-ad2d-4ae5-b64d-ed8939f213cf-image.png] Test at 15mA/cm2 of the same cell. Some deterioration is now evident, charging to 1.55 V [image: 1747325934195-2dbc77b1-de09-4492-a3e2-5997e2517c81-image.png]

From Roth et al., Aalto University built a (sizable!) stack for all-copper and used ABS for their flow frames - I'd imagine it would play better with BPT tubing than the Zn-I chemistry also.

@gus @SamAuc ABS may work with an all-copper chemistry!

Hi Otmar! I think it would be helpful to see a rough schedule of the workshop and time allocations per topic/activity - then it would be easier to give feedback for the site, based on specifics of the activity the site is meant to complement!

Cloning the https://codeberg.org/FBRC/RFB-dev-kit repository, opening the assembly in FreeCAD, fixing part of it, then pushing the changes with VSCodium. As part of the Flow Battery Research Collective project at https://fbrc.dev 0:00 Cloning repository 3:29 Opening assembly file 4:09 Fixing the cell assembly 20:20 Pushing changes to repository

Hi Otmar, welcome to FBRC and the project, looking forward to working with you!